Strebe ( talk) 22:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC) I would support this proposal. Thanks for opening this much-needed discussion. Instead, Shape of the Earth (which at this point is redundant, as User:Clconway points out) should be rewritten entirely as a summary of human conceptions of the earth’s shape, from ancient to modern, directing the reader to Flat Earth, World Turtle, World-elephant, Spherical Earth, Geoid and Figure of the Earth as appropriate. While they overlap some, they are largely distinct, and merging them would result in a massive article. Not to proliferate proposals without bound, but my observations: The Flat Earth article and the Spherical Earth articles are extensive. SteveMcCluskey ( talk) 21:24, 5 September 2010 (UTC) I look forward to seeing the outcome when I return. I will be away for a while and won't be able to participate actively, but my preferences are presented above. SteveMcCluskey ( talk) 20:50, 5 September 2010 (UTC) I've recently notified past active contributors to these pages about this discussion. Some may prefer to separate out discussions of the flat earth models from discussions of the spherical earth models, but I think the historical / cultural organization would allow for better discussions of how advocates of these models interacted at specific times and places. My preference is to arrange it historically as the present articles are, with further divisions into cultural areas. Before merging these articles, we should also consider how such an article should be structured. The non-historical material in Spherical Earth can be deleted as it duplicates (in abbreviated form) a discussion already found in Earth radius. Since these pages are have come increasingly to overlap, I suggest that we consider consolidating all the material in Flat Earth and Spherical Earth (omitting duplications) into the existing article on the Shape of the Earth, reducing the old articles to redirects. More recently, Shape of the Earth was created an extended disambiguation page was created which has come to discuss various interpretations of the Shape of the Earth. However, as a consequence of these discussions, the article Flat Earth still contains extensive discussions of ancient and medieval discussions of the spherical earth, which were soon duplicated in the article Spherical Earth. From its earliest versions, the Flat Earth article was involved with nineteenth-century claims that medieval people believed the earth was flat, but that discussion was wisely moved into the article Myth of the Flat Earth. It might be worthwhile to consider merging Flat Earth, Spherical Earth, and Shape of the Earth into a single article discussing the development of concepts of the shape of the Earth in different cultures and historical periods. ![]() ![]() Clconway ( talk) 13:49, 5 September 2010 (UTC) Alternate Proposal: Merge into Shape of the Earth I had been thinking along the same lines, and offer this alternate proposal which I had been developing in my sandbox. I think we should merge what is there into this article and either redirect or leave Shape of the Earth as a stub with links to this article and Spherical Earth. All of the information I would like to see added there is already presented quite well here. The Shape of the Earth article is incomplete and misleading, since it discusses in detail only Greek thought on the shape of the Earth.
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